Wednesday, December 25, 2024

A Christmas Reflection on Jesus’ Birthday: By Dr. Phil Chan

Many thanks to Phil for writing this informative and interesting Christmas Message. It's truly worth a read. Comments are always welcome.


A Christmas Reflection on Jesus’ Birthday.

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Dear Andrew,

Thank you for inviting me to write again for Christmas 2024. I think, I will share excerpts from my recent invited public lecture on the Christmas Star at the Singapore National Gallery.

Isaiah 9: 6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on His shoulders. And He will be called Wonderful Counsellor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Two historical passages were examined at the public talk, namely Luke 2: 8-20 (Baby Jesus, The Shepherds and Angels) and Matthew 2:1-10 Child Jesus and Magi (Wise men, Kings).

The Story about O Little Town of Bethlehem carol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-dDdKoHRxg

A possible clue for Jesus’s birthday comes from an unlikely historical account in Luke 1:5-25, 39-56 regarding the date of John the Baptist’s birth. This passage is not normally read during Christmas.

In the time of Herod king of Judea, there was a priest named Zechariah, who belonged to the priestly division of Abijah; his wife Elizabeth was also a descendant of Aaron. Both of them were upright in the sight of God, observing all the Lord's commandments and regulations blamelessly. But they had no children because Elizabeth was barren; and they were both well along in years. 

Once when Zechariah's division was on duty; he was chosen by lot to serve as priest before God, according to the custom of the priesthood. He was to go into the temple of the Lord to burn incense. When the time for the burning of incense came, all the assembled worshippers were praying outside. Then an angel of the Lord appeared to him, standing at the right side of the altar of incense. 

When Zechariah saw him, he was startled and gripped with fear. But the angel said to him: Do not be afraid, Zechariah; your prayer has been heard. Your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son, and you are to give him the name John. When his time of service was completed, he returned home. After this, his wife Elizabeth became pregnant and for five months remained in seclusion. 

From the Old Testament, King David organized the priests (and the Levites) into 24 courses (1Chronicles 24:1-31). Abijah was the eighth of the priestly divisions (1Chronicles 24:10). This would mean the month of Sivan would be around May-June when Elizabeth got pregnant.

The Birth of Jesus Foretold (6 months after John):

Luke 1:26 In the sixth month, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, to a Virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David. The virgin's name was Mary. The angel went to her and said, Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you. Luke 1:35 The angel answered Mary, Luke 1:36 Even Elizabeth your relative is going to have a child in her old age, and she who was said to be barren is in her sixth month. Mary stayed with Elizabeth for about three months and then returned home. The above indicates there were 6 months between the conception of John and the conception of Jesus.

When was John born ?

If it is 9-month gestation, John would have been born in the month Nisan … (Mar-April) during the Passover/Unleavened Bread/First Fruits Festivals. See Hebrew calendar below.

https://www.neverthirsty.org/bible-qa/qa-archives/question/was-jesus-born-september-or-december-25-zacharias-john-baptist/

So when was Jesus born?

Jesus would have been born 6 months later, that would be in the month of Tishri (Sept-Oct) another 3 Festivals (one of them is the Feast of the Trumpets). This would be fitting as 1 Kings 1:32-34 informed us that when anointing a coming King, the ancients blow the trumpets. See Hebrew calendar above.

However, the current traditional date for Christmas was first decreed by the first Christian Roman Emperor, Constantine, to be December 25 as the official date to celebrate the birth of Jesus in 326 CE.

Now that we know when born Jesus was born, what about the year of His birth?

A 1980 Symposium at the famous Griffith Observatory (USA) discussed the historical significance of several astronomical events between 3 BC and 2 BC in an effort to establish the Christmas Star that the Magi (wise men from the East) might have noticed.

Who were the Magi from the East ?

They were likely from Babylon or Persia. One may note that in ancient times, the intellectual center of the world was Baghdad. Europe was busy persecuting heretics at that time but Baghdad was open to all thought. The Arabs invented algebra; algebra and algorithm are both Arabic words. In fact, two-third of the stars in the night sky have Arabic names.

At that time, great advances were made in fields such as Mathematics, astronomy, navigation, including engineering in the Middle East, especially in Baghdad. One may ask, “Why is that so?” The well-known Astrophysicist, Dr. deGrasse Tyson claimed “If you look at what was going on, they were open to all lines of thought. Jews, Muslims, Christians, doubters and atheists. They would all come around the table and share ideas. Through robust debates, if you have some philosophy that’s got holes in it, some one’s going find it and they’ve got to challenge you on those ideas. And what happens is that the conversation’s got ratchet up. You discard what doesn’t work and you keep what does. When you do that, you make discoveries rapidly.”

"Good philosophy must exist, if for no other reason, because bad philosophy needs to be answered." C.S. Lewis, Oxford.

Between 3 BC and 2 BC, the Magi would have taken notice of special conjunctions of Jupiter-Venus (Between Aug 3 BC and June 2 BC, both these two celestial objects “bound” together could easily be seen in the skies as they would be unusually bright) and would have alerted the Magi. One can use powerful computer sky maps programmed with the laws of physics today to confirm this observation. [See below.]

What is more interesting is that Jupiter (known as the King Star in ancient times) retrogrades (a peculiar motion of planets) in such way that “circles” around Regulus (this star is the brightest in the constellation Leo). Regulus is known as the little King star in that period and Leo being the Lion constellation is associated to the Hebrew tribe of Judah).

More details are given in a previous Christmas Star post (2022):

https://singapore60smusic.blogspot.com/2022/12/christmas-message-what-could-christmas.html

E. Martin, The Star That Astonished the World, ASK Pub. 1996
J. Mosley, The Christmas Star, Griffith Observatory, 1987.

In conclusion

It is often pointed out that there is a discrepancy between Luke’s and Mathew’s accounts on Jesus’ birth. The Shepherds saw Baby Jesus in a manger near Bethlehem while the wise men met Toddler Jesus in a house in Bethlehem (where the “King star” Jupiter stopped). But a careful reading of the Holy Scriptures would elucidate that the wise men met Jesus after more than a year of travelling from the East (probably 2000 km on horses or camels) by following the path of Jupiter’s retrograde motion. Jesus by then would be about one to two years old. Another clue comes from King Herod’s wanting to kill every child of that age when they heard from the wise men that a King had been born.

Jesus was likely born in September-October during 3 BC to 2 BC. The shepherds were not likely to have brought sheep out to the Judean hills (near Bethlehem) during the winter months in December. After about more than a year, the Maggi would have met toddler Jesus in December the following year.

It is also interesting that this year’s Jewish Festival of Lights or Hanukkah (also known as the Dedication of the Temple) coincides with Christmas 2024. Hanukkah is an eight-day festival in commemoration of the re-dedication during the 2 BC of the Second Temple in Jerusalem. According to John 10:22 Jesus was at the Hanukkah celebration.

Finally, at this traditional Christmas 2024, let us still be merry, enjoy ourselves and bring good tidings of Jesus to all man. Nehemiah 8:10 said, “Go and enjoy choice food and sweet drinks, and send some to those who have nothing prepared. This day is holy to our Lord. Do not grieve, for the joy of the Lord is your strength."

Isaiah 9: 6, For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on His shoulders. And He will be called Wonderful Counsellor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Wishing you and your family good health, a Blessed Christmas 2024 and a Happy New Year 2025.

Best Regards,

Phil

Author: 
Associate Prof. 
Dr. Phil Chan

88 comments:

ANDY: Pop Music Not Pills. © said...

Thanks for the many messages and greetings from readers, friends, family and contributing writers. They will be posted within these 10 days of Christmas.

HENSLEY N FAMILY said...

WISHING YOU AND YOUR FAMILY, GOOD HEALTH, GREAT JOY AND GOD BLESS. MERRY X'MAS N HAPPY NEW YEAR. BEST REGARDS.

ANDY: Pop Music Not Pills. © said...

Hi Roop, thanks for the card. MERRY X'MAS TO YOU n FAMILY TOO

FRANCIS A. ROZELLS [THAILAND] said...

MERRY X'MAS

ANDY: Pop Music Not Pills. © said...

Thanks Francis. Will check out Dr. Lee YS from Penang soon. You have a great Christmas too.

ALPHONSO SOOSAY [NAOMI N BOYS] said...

Buddy Andy. Let Us Adore “Jesus Christ” For All The Awesome “Blessings” Of The Year. ✨✨✨.🙏.

ANDY: Pop Music Not Pills. © said...

HI AL, THANKS FOR THE GREETING CARD. YOU HAVE A MERRY X'MAS TOO AND A GREAT 2025. APPRECIATE YOU KEPT IN TOUCH ALL THESE YEARS.

ANDY: Pop Music Not Pills. © said...

Andy Young
Thanks John and Francis for being the earliest visitors. Merry Xmas to you both.

Andy Young
Thanks Perry for the early bird visit and for liking the post. MERRY CHRISTMAS

Andy Young
Thanks Rose for liking this post. MERRY CHRISTMAS.

PERRY KOH [SG's PERRY COMO] said...

Perry Koh
Andy Young a blessed Christmas to you and your household too.

MRS DAISY KOH said...

Koh Daisy
Merry Christmas Andy and family. Have an awesome year ahead. Good Health and happiness. 🙏

ANDY: Pop Music Not Pills. © said...

Andy Young
Daisy hi, thanks. You too have a MERRY CHRISTMAS with FAMILY! Appreciate you keeping in touch all these years.

CHIT CHAT said...

RAYMOND CHO
MERRY CHRISTMAS

Andy Young
Raymond Cho Thanks Raymond. MERRY XMAS.

CEDRIC COLLARS [PERTH AUST.] said...

A very Merry Christmas Andy to you and your family from all of us here in Perth Australia. Have a Ho Ho Ho day filled with all things merry and bright.

DAVID WONG said...

To You and Yours.. Have a Blessed Christmas & a Happy Healthy 2025! 😊🙏

YEO SP said...

Hi Andy. It has been a long time since.
Anyway, Merry Christmas & A HAPPY NEW 2025 Year to You & All At Home.

HAPPY TAY [VANCOUVER, BC, CAN] said...

WISHING U N WIFE N LOVED ONES A JOYFUL AND MERRY CHRISTMAS

GEORGE CHEW [THE BURNS/LEAD GUITAR] said...

Wishing each and everyone of you love, peace and great health.

DR CLARENCE TAN said...

Blessed Christmas, Andy to you and R.

ANNA LAW [THE TEEPEES] said...

Here's wishing you and your family a joyous Christmas. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

JOHNNY YEO [SAS] said...

Merry Christmas Andrew and your Family

MATTHEW TAN [SINGAPORE COWBOY] said...

MERRY CHRISTMAS N HAPPY NEW YEAR 2025

AUDIE NG [SILVER STRINGS] said...

WISH YOU HAPPY MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY

RONALD HO [MELTONES] said...

My peace I give unto you. It's a peace that the world cannot give. It's a peace that the world cannot understand. Peace to know. Peace to grow. My peace I give unto you.

ALAN TEAH said...

MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY NEW YEAR.

EDDY ENG said...

Jesus Christ's birth was a historical event. We should not confuse and confound the date and year with conjectures. To the Christian world, it is still 25th December except for orthodox Christians.
Merry Christmas!

ANDY: Pop Music Not Pills. © said...

Thanks to all who sent greetings and Eddy Eng for comment. Hopefully Phil will reply soon. There will be more comments and good tidings soon.

DR. PHIL CHAN said...

I am sorry, 25 December date was given by the Roman Emperor Constantine (is a well-known fact... anyone who has studied Roman History will know this fact). Actually Pope Benedict, in his book (2012) also disputed the traditional date of December 25.

I think Eddy did not read carefully. We are not encouraging people to give the traditional 25 December... some tradition is fine.

Actually, hundreds of public Astro-Observatories around the world show the possible Christmas Star, seen by the Magi on their powerful physics computers this period, in their Astronomy talks.

JIMMY YAP said...

Andy, MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU N FAMILY.

TRACY MPSS said...

Oh Holy Night. It is the night of the dear Saviour's birth.

RICKY WONG said...

Blessed Christmas n 2025 Andy.

TAN SOO KHOON said...

MERRY CHRISTMAS

CHARLES DE SILVA said...

MERRY CHRISTMAS

HORACE WEE said...

What! You are still up. Blessed and Merry Christmas to you.

JIMMY CHNG [DECIBELS GUITAR GROUP] said...

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

DANNY BOY [SILVER STRINGS/PERCUSSIONIST said...

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

SHARMINI C. [NLB/ARCHIVES] said...

Dear Andy, wishing you and your fmaiy a very merry Christmas! Peace. love and joy.

CHRISTOPHER TOH [JOURNALIST/PODCASTER] said...

Happy Christmas and Merry New Year to you.

VINCENT TAN said...

To my friend that I am honoured to have in my life. May the season warm your soul, bring love to your heart and bless you with everything this life has to offer. BLESSED CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR.

ANDY: Pop Music Not Pills. © said...

Apparently this year the Covid snow has thawed and people are more active. Thanks folks for the comments and chats. Cheers!

FREDA HANUM [TEEPEES] said...

During this time of togetherness and giving I want to wish you a Merry Christmas filled with love, peace and happiness.

ANDY: Pop Music Not Pills. © said...

THANKS FREDA FOR YOUR GREETING CARD. OUT OF TOWN FOR THE HOLIDAY WITH FAMILY BUT MANAGED TO POST AND REPLY TO MOST FRIENDS AND CONTRIBUTING WRITERS. YOU STAY SAFE AND HEALTHY. REGARDS TO HUBBY TOO.

CHEW HEE HONG said...

Wishing you and family a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year

OLIVER BALASINGHAM [SCHOOL PRINCIPAL/PERCUSSIONIST] said...

MERRY X'MAS N HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU N FAMILY

JERRY SARAM said...

Here's wishing you all the joys of the season. May you be blessed with peace , love and joy.

CLARENCE PERERA [PERCUSSIONIST/'THE DUKES'] said...

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“What Does Spiritual Exercise and Spiritual Diet Mean?”
will give us insights on a practical take on getting a balanced Spiritual diet.

Many religious people in general, eat one spiritual meal a week and that’s usually a Sunday morning service. In fitness programme, there is the grazing principle we can follow. It’s taking smaller meals throughout the day. It’s the same thing with our Spiritual diet - having a well-balanced, healthy Spiritual diet throughout the day. We’re not talking about burying our nose in the Bible although we need to be in the Word every day. There are other little things that we can do to add to our Spiritual nutrition. Just like physical training and physical nutrition, it just takes a little bit of discipline. We also read books by great teachers of the Word to feed our Spirit. They become part of our Spiritual diet. Spiritual exercise goes hand-in-hand with the physical exercise. With our Bible reading we’re getting our nutrition, but there’s also a physical act. We choose to do something that requires us to work those Spiritual muscles. We choose to forgive people who have hurt us. We give up bitterness and grudges. We can get very strong Spiritually with Spiritual exercises — walking away from an argument, not firing back and exercise being patient. Anytime the Spirit puts it on our heart to do a Spiritual action or to refrain from doing something that we know we shouldn’t, it requires those spiritual muscles to come into play. That’s Spiritual exercise along with our normal disciplines of Reading and Praying and Fasting.
May our Dear Almighty LORD JESUS CHRIST our GOD bless us on our journey to Spiritual health.

Dear Heavenly Father,
Thank You for Your Amazing and Wonderful Love. Help us to pay attention to our Spiritual diet and Spiritual exercise. Stir us to be committed to Spiritual disciplines so we can be Healthy. Continue to Teach us Your ways Dear LORD. Keep us and our loved ones energised to bring Peace, Hope and Joy to people in need of Your Love. Keep our hearts Faithful to Your cause. Let us have Your peace and assurance that YOU will continue to watch over us. Give us good health. Sustain our faith, give us Your Joy and the desire to Honour and Worship YOU. Strengthen our family and friends determination to share YOU our Dear Almighty LORD JESUS CHRIST in our neighbourhood. Let us seize every opportunity to do so. Bring the lost to the Christmas event today. Let the Gospel be preached and souls be saved. In JESUS' Gracious and Lovely Name we Pray, Amen.

ANDY: Pop Music Not Pills. © said...

Disclaimer:
Since it is Christmas, I am just sharing what Clarence, an old music mate, sends to me, a daily prayer every morning since Covid days. It came with his Christmas greeting yesterday. There is no intention to promote any religion on this music blog. Thank you.

ANDY: Pop Music Not Pills. © said...

To JIMMY YAP who was born on CHRISTMAS DAY:
“It might be a celebratory distraction to be born on a big holiday, like Christmas, but the truth is it's very rare to be born on December 25, which makes those birthdays pretty special.” HAPPY BIRTHDAY JIMMY.

ANDY: Pop Music Not Pills. © said...

If you've sent a greeting and it's not posted do let me know. I apologise and will do so immediately. Again many thanks for this warm and friendly connection.

CEDRIC CORK said...

Wish you a Merry Christmas

JIMMY PRESLEE [SG ELVIS TRIBUTE ARTISTE] said...

Wishing you and family, Happy Merry Christmas

RICHARD RAJOO [MUSICIAN] said...

HALO... MERRY CHRISTMAS . Still in LONDON with FAMILY

WILFRED LIM [MUSIC MAKER] said...

Have a safe and memorable family holiday. God bless.

ALAN TEAH said...

MERRY CHRISTMAS

MICHAEL BANGAR [MUSICIAN] said...

MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR

JERRY FERNANDEZ n NEU FACES said...

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU AND FAMILY

SEE C. S. said...

MERRY CHRISTMAS

MARK [TRAVELLING MAN] said...

Wishing you and all your family members... A Very Merry Christmas and a Very Blessed New Year 2025

JOEY KOH said...

Thank you for your friendship; always grateful. Grateful great... Enjoy the silent night... Christmas Eve.

WINSTON KOH [SINGER/TRAILERS] said...

Merry X'mas to all and Blessed 2025. Have a great year ahead! With Metta.

STEVE HO [HEARTBREAKERS] said...

Merry Christmas

PATRICK CHAN [MUSICIAN] said...

MERRY CHRISTMAS

PETER HAN [TOKYO SQUARE] said...

A Blessed Christmas to you Andy!

FABIAN FOO [VIDEOCAM ENTHUSIAST] said...

Merry Christmas. LET'S CELEBRATE!

CHARLIE YAP [LOCOMOTION/BAND LEADER] said...

A LOCOMOTION Christmas! Cheers! (Sent from Club 22)

TAN S.L. [NIE] said...

Andrew, Merry Christmas! May Love, Joy and Peace be with you throughout the year

JALANI MOHD. [MUSICIAN/PIANIST] said...

HAPPY HOLIDAYS. WISHING YOU A JOYOUS HOLIDAY SEASON. HAVE A GREAT DAY WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS.

JOYCELYN [MPSS] said...

MERRY CHRISTMAS AND BEST WISHES FOR A HEALTHY, HAPPY NEW YEAR.

MR AND MRS JAMES HO said...

Good morning Andy. Merry Christmas to you and your family. Hope to see you again soon.

PAUL IBRAHM [SINGER/TANYA/FLYBAITS] said...

Good morning. MERRY CHRISTMAS

JAMES KWOK said...

聖誕快樂 !!!
(Shèng dàn kuài lè)
Merry Christmas!

IVOR LESSLAR [QUESTS/LEAD GUITAR] said...

WISHING ALL A BLESSED CHRISTMAS AND A PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR

ANDY: Pop Music Not Pills. © said...

DANNY KOH [PIANIST/SINGER] sent his own rendition of WHITE CHRISTMAS accompanying himself on the piano. Thanks Danny for the personal touch.

MERLIN LIM [SILVER STRINGS/RHYTHMIST] said...

Dear Andy ...
Just As You Wish,
So Be Your Reward.
HAVE A MERRY, HAPPY, GLORIOUS
CHRISTMAS Bro !!!

SAMMIN n ESTHER ANG [PIANIST/SINGER] said...

Hey Bro Andy !
Blessed Christmas 🎄 & Prosperous New Year 🎉🤩🎉 To You And Your Family!
Cheers 🎉🥂🎉
Sammin & Esther

CHIT CHAT said...

Alphonso Soosay
Buddy Andy Young. I am wishing you and your family with abundant Christmas Blessings of Love, Goodwill, Peace with Happiness and Joy. ✨🎄✨🎄✨🎄✨. [from Perth, Australia]

Andy Young
Alphonso Soosay thanks my friend. You too, have a great Christmas and New Year 2025

CHIT CHAT said...

JI Hongtao
我祝愿你和你的家人拥有丰富的圣诞祝福,充满爱、善意、和平与幸福和喜悦。
[I wish you and your family rich Christmas wishes filled with love, kindness, peace and happiness and joy. Ji is from Perth, Australia.]

Andy Young
JI Hongtao,
Thank you so much. I wish you and your family too a safe, healthy and Merry Christmas and new 2025.

CHIT CHAT said...

Lee Yao
Christmas, pleasant bells accompanied by joyful music, bright lights accompanied by brilliant fireworks, flying snowflakes accompanied by moving smiles, warm messages accompanied by sincere blessings. [from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia]

Andy Young
Lee Yao, now that's a blessing indeed. Thank you and I wish you a pleasant Christmas and New Year. In a country like Singapore we will miss the snowflakes and fireworks but the smiles, messages and blessings are in place. 🙂

LEE YAO [KL, MALAYSIA] said...

Lee Yao
Andy Young Even without snowflakes falling, we can still feel the warmth and joy of the festival. I wish you enjoy the warm time with your family and friends during this special season and feel full of love and blessings. No matter where we are, may we be able to convey the best holiday wishes through smiles, kindness and a sincere heart

ANDY: Pop Music Not Pills. © said...


Andy Young
ALL MESSAGES ARE FULLY CONVEYED ON THE BLOG COMMENTS. Please check and if yours has not been posted, do let me know. THERE ARE NEARLY 100 replies and chats. Thanks to all who wrote in.

CHIT CHAT said...

Lee Yao
Andy Young Can we add each other as friends so we can communicate?

Andy Young
Lee Yao hello! It's best to chat over music topics on this BLOG post. You are welcome to write anytime about SG or other pop genres. Thanks for the invitation.

ANDY: Pop Music Not Pills. © said...

Thanks to all folks below who
LIKE or LOVE this posting:

Alphonso Soosay
James Kwok
John Cher
John Klass
Irene Yap
Roop Singh
Koh Daisy
Colin Ren
Francis Anthony Rozells
Ann Rowena Lim
Kali Dass S
Raymond Cho
Tracy Ng
Rose Khoo
Perry Koh
Lee Yao
Hawk Chen

CHIT CHAT said...

Andy Young
Thanks to ANN ROWENA LIM, IRENE YAP and HAWK CHEN for LIKING this post.

CHIT CHAT said...

John Cher [2nd message]:
Heartiest congratulations ANDY! Merry Christmas and a blessed New Year ahead 🙏🎉🎈

TREVOR NERVA said...

MERRY BLESSED CHRISTMAS, JOY TO YOU AND YOUR LOVED ONES.

CHIT CHAT said...

Hiroshi Deguchi
I wish you and your family good health a blessed Christmas and a Happy New

Andy Young
Hiroshi Deguchi HI. thanks. You too, have a lovely but cold Christmas in Fukuoka and a Happy New 2025.

CHIT CHAT said...

Fred Ching
Merry Christmas Brother Andy! Have a beautiful festive season!🎄☃️🎁🤶

Andy Young
Fred Ching thanks! You enjoy your holiday too with the 'Little One' [Russ Hamilton]. MERRY X'MAS and a GREAT NEW 2025.

CHIT CHAT said...

Ann Rowena Lim
Merry Christmas Andy Young 🥰❤️👏🏻

Andy Young
Ann Rowena Lim hello! You have a Happy Holiday too with your lovely Family.

CHIT CHAT said...

Colin Ren
Merry Christmas 🎅 to you Andy.
Soon happy new year to you too.. 😉

Andy Young
Colin Ren to you too my friend. I always miss your name because you changed it? Where's Colin Colin? 🙂 But thanks for keeping in touch. And Season's Greetings to you and family too